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你知道加密货币领域隐私保护的发展历程吗？

起初，有CryptoNote和Bytecoin，它们由Andrey（ @zano_project ）和“隐私界的中本聪”等人创建。但在发生分歧后，Bytecoin分叉成了……门罗币。 @rkbaggs 与 @_cryptozoidberg 进行了对话 #CHAINREACTION #xmr #zec

https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/2036212944162193409?s=20

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0:00 当你构建开源项目时，你知道，人们可以直接拿走

0:05 整个代码库并据此创造新的东西。

0:07 这就是常态。

0:09 当门罗币这么做的时候，你对他们有任何恼怒或不满吗

0:16 因为这么做？

0:17 也许你觉得自己没有得到应有的认可。

0:20 好问题。

0:21 这是个好问题。

0:22 问题是，公司内部有很多矛盾，因为我们作为

0:28 开发者，

0:29 整个团队，因为我不是一个人开发这个脚本，还有其他

0:34 人。

0:34 在发布时我更像是主导开发者，但还有其他

0:39 人。

0:39 实际上比我更加有天赋。

0:41 我们还与公司管理层进行了相当激烈的讨论，

0:48 因为我们不喜欢他们所走的方向。

0:51 我们试图解释开源的特定运作机制，

0:57 开源是如何运作的。

0:57 我们努力解释这一点。

0:59 如果你用非常愚蠢的方式发布代码，会有人接管整个项目。

1:04 他们会重新发布，拿走开源代码和技术，按

1:10 他们认为公平的方式来运营。

1:12 大多数人会转向这个新项目，因为事实就是如此。

1:17 事实确实如此。

1:19 当事情发生时，我觉得原团队内部的人并不惊讶，

1:25 original team.

1:26 这正是我们所预料到的。

1:31 而我不喜欢的，是几个月后我开始自己做项目时，

1:40 事情变得非常难看。

1:42 门罗币领导者与我之间的对立开始激烈起来。

1:51 他们知道我来自原始的Badcoin团队，

1:52 这就像互联网常见的情况一样。

1:58 但这里涉及金钱和利益，人们变得非常

2:00 部落化。

2:04 这让我非常惊讶和震惊。

2:04 这让我感到非常难受，因为我无法理解，

2:08 他们明明知道是我们构建了这项技术，

2:12 却极力抹黑我们，这让我觉得非常难看。

2:16 这让我对发生的事情感到非常难过。

2:24 但分叉的事实实际上是，甚至现在回头看，

2:29 But the fact that fork happened is actually, I mean, even now when I look back

2:35 我认为，能够聚集志同道合的人围绕这个项目，

2:36 他们成功地找到人才，改进这个项目，构建项目，

2:42 推广这个项目和技术，这非常伟大。

2:44 CryptoNote因为早期和后来的门罗币团队而闻名，

2:49 门罗币经历了几代人。

2:52 他们实际上做得很好，虽不完美，但很努力地推广这项技术

2:57 和隐私理念。

3:00 公平地说，这是少数真正社区驱动且无预挖的项目之一，

3:06 我知道仅靠捐赠维持这样的项目很有挑战。

3:09 因此，我非常尊重，并认为他们在打造隐私品牌、

3:16 门罗币品牌和CryptoNote品牌方面做了很棒的工作。

3:22 我认为这是一个复杂却精彩的故事。

3:22 So at the same time, I have a lot of respect and I think it's a great job had

3:26 been done to build this, the brand of privacy, brand of Manera and the crypto

3:32 note and I think it's both a set story and the great story at the same time.

0:00 When you're building something open source, you know, people can just lift the

0:05 entire code base and create something new with it.

0:07 That's part of the course.

0:09 When Monero did that, do you feel any sort of annoyance or ill will toward them

0:16 for doing that?

0:17 Because perhaps you're not getting the credit you deserve.

0:20 Great question.

0:21 That's a great question.

0:22 The thing is, inside the company, we had a lot of tension because we as a

0:28 developer,

0:29 the whole team, because I was not alone building the script and all those other

0:34 guys.

0:34 I was more like a lead developer by the time I launched, but there was other

0:39 guys.

0:39 Way more talented than I actually.

0:41 And then we had quite a hard conversations with the management of the company

0:48 because we didn't like what the direction it takes.

0:51 And we tried to explain that there is a specific machinery, how open source

0:57 works.

0:57 And we're trying to explain that.

0:59 If you launch it in a very stupid way, someone will take over the whole thing.

1:04 They will relaunch, take the open source, take the technology, launch it in the

1:10 way they like, the way they think it's fair.

1:12 And the majority of the people will go to this new thing because that's what

1:17 actually happened.

1:19 And when it happened, I don't think people were surprised who are in the

1:25 original team.

1:26 But it's something that we kind of expected.

1:31 And what I didn't like, what was really frustrating to me as after a couple of

1:40 months that I started to work on my own project.

1:42 It started in a very ugly confrontation between Manera, people who are leading

1:51 Manera.

1:52 Me, myself, as they know that I came from a regional bad coin team, it's turned

1:58 into like it always happens on the internet.

2:00 But that's here is also money involved and interest and people became very

2:04 tribal.

2:04 That's what really surprised me and really shocked me.

2:08 That's what gave me a really bad taste because I was, I couldn't understand,

2:12 they knew that we built this technology.

2:16 But they tried to delegitimize us so hard, so it looked really ugly for me.

2:24 This made me really sad feeling about what was happening.

2:29 But the fact that fork happened is actually, I mean, even now when I look back

2:35 to this history,

2:36 I believe it's great that there was a people who managed to consolidate like-

2:42 minded people around this project.

2:44 They managed to find talent, to improve this project, to build this project, to

2:49 promote this project, to promote this technology.

2:52 A crypto note became known because Manera guys, early Manera guys and later Man

2:57 era guys, there were a few generations of people there.

3:00 They did actually great, not nice, but great job to promote this technology and

3:06 promote ideas of privacy.

3:09 It's, to be fair, it's one of very few actually community-driven projects with

3:16 no pre-mind and I know it's very challenging to run projects like this based on

3:22 donations only.

3:22 So at the same time, I have a lot of respect and I think it's a great job had

3:26 been done to build this, the brand of privacy, brand of Manera and the crypto

3:32 note and I think it's both a set story and the great story at the same time.